By the Way, There Are No Gay People in Iran
Bret Stephens explains the grossness of inviting the president of Iran to speak at Columbia University to the simple minded. It remains doubtful that they will get it.
UPDATE: The editorialists at the NYT sure don't.
UPDATE: The editorialists at the NYT sure don't.
posted by Spencerblog at
10:52 PM
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No Gay people in Iran? I bet Anonymous is booking a flight to go there and bring back the cure (because apparently, it ain't Jesus). :-)
An old rule of thumb in debate tournaments is that the first one to say "Hitler" loses.
Ya hear that, Dave? ;)
David the Dem:
The Muslims punish, severely, all types of immoral behavior. Christians don't hurt gays, but instead try to bring the life saving gospel of Jesus Christ to them. Christians let God render ultimate judgment. There is a difference.
And by the way, there is a cure, and it is Jesus! Jesus can save you too, as He does not discriminate.
I wonder which Dave dislikes more, Ahmadinejad or Bush?
Randal-
Since you brought him up first, I guess you lose.
Anonymous-
See, that's the problem right there. You are declaring that gay behavior is immoral (even though it isn't).
Fortunately, in this country, we do have laws against hurting gays physically, but hurting them financially (employment, insurance, spousal benefits) is still widely accepted and practiced.
It seems that your brand of Christianity (like Falwell, Dobson and others) is to behave un-Christ-like and claim you are being Christ-like. Anonymous, you sound more like a Jehovah witness every day.
Jon Stewart made an interesting comment regarding Ahmadinejad's claim of no gays in Iran... "Just like the Conservative movement in America".
And he denied the clear and present threat that is Iran. -Just like the American Left. This ain't no joke.
Heck, every time one of these enemy/terrorists opens their yap they sound suspiciously similar to the tripe we hear from the LibDems. And we all know which side they’d vote for if they could. They showed us that when they celebrated the Dem victories at the polls.
So you indeed hate Bush more than you do Ahmadinejad, Dave.
Clear and present threat? To whom? Certainly not us (unless you mean about getting control of oil). Israel can wipe them off the map.
Actually, the Iranian leader sounds very conservative. He claims God is on his side. He's against gays. He has his own government propaganda channel (just like FoxNews here).
Any wiretapping, warrant-less arrests or detentions are for "security" (and the US has already stated its intent to destabilize his economy to overthrown him). Randal, calls for the shooting of people that speak out against Bush. What would Randal do as an Iranian to people that spoke out against Ahmadinejad?
David:
I am a lawyer, and I write about this stuff frequently and have represented the Biblical Worldview in many courtrooms.
It is hard for me to fathom what you are talking about in terms of homosexuality not being immoral. Are you suggesting that it is moral and natural? Or are you really saying that there is no such thing as morality and that anything goes? What does your God say about men with men and women with women? What does your God say about the killing of unborn babies?(If you are an atheist then I understand your confusion about these basic issues).
The homosexuals (including their supporters in the pro abortion movement) have an agenda, and it is being pushed along by people like you, and even by our previous more liberal Supreme Court.
The goal of the homosexual agenda is to rid the public square of god (as it has succeeded in the public schools), and to eliminate the sanctity of life, any gender identification and the traditional family.
Two quotes are very telling from your secular world view. The first is from a law professor from University of Michigan. She says:
"Being queer means pushing the parameters of sex, sexuality, and family, and in the process transforming the very fabric of society . . . We must keep our eyes on the goals of providing true alternatives to marriage and of radically reordering society's view of family."
Another commentator says this:
"We rule the world these days. Everybody except orthodox religious sects has either been cowed by gay activist intimidation or softened by the politics of victimology and oppression and the doctrines of tolerance, diversity, and inclusion."
David, do you subscribe to the above statements?
Our society is in trouble, and that trouble is increasing. The trouble has nothing to do with people like me who believe that right is right and that wrong is wrong. If standards are not fixed and adhered to, there is no order, and society will fall.
Those of us that "get it" understand this concept. Please come join us!
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