Doing a Good Deed
Excellent piece and suggestion from the Inky's Kevin Ferris in today's WSJ on the Boy Scouts in Philadelphia.
Because the BSA doesn't accept openly gay scout leaders, certain cities and organizations have declared war on them. Philly included.
Gay organizations have used their political muscle to end the Cradle of Liberty chapter's rent break from the city.
Ferris suggests new Mayor Michael Nutter sell the building, which the scouts have been in since 1928, to the chapter, at "fair market value minus a generous allowance for the improvements the scouts have made to the property and the resources they have devoted to its upkeep..."
Sounds like an excellent idea.
Because the BSA doesn't accept openly gay scout leaders, certain cities and organizations have declared war on them. Philly included.
Gay organizations have used their political muscle to end the Cradle of Liberty chapter's rent break from the city.
Ferris suggests new Mayor Michael Nutter sell the building, which the scouts have been in since 1928, to the chapter, at "fair market value minus a generous allowance for the improvements the scouts have made to the property and the resources they have devoted to its upkeep..."
Sounds like an excellent idea.
posted by Spencerblog at
10:30 AM
24 Comments:
The City’s crusade against the Boy Scouts is an egregious display of Gay-sympathetic Liberalism bullying. They’re more concerned with coercing the Scouts to change their policy they don’t like than the much needed good the Scouts do for the kids in that city. There’s that backwards and misguided Libism for ya.
The Boy Scouts should tell the Philly Libs to F-off and bail out of there altogether and let that craphole of a city implode on its own misguided Libism.
Oops, I mean… But there’s no Angry Gay Agenda committed to bullying their unreasonable demands on resistant others, nah, that’s silly. They just want to be left alone, free to love whomever they desire. Because it’s all about the love. And they were born that way! (Except for the “bi” folks; they were only party born that way. And the experimenters… they weren’t born that way but… Oh, man, this love stuff is so confusing!)
Spencer (and Randal)-
It's illegal for taxpayer dollars to fund/pay organizations that discriminate (by race, sexual orientation, etc.) Subsidizing the Boy Scout's rent is money out of the taxpayer's pockets and a violation of the law.
What kind of "values" are the Boy Scouts being taught when their organization institutionalizes discrimination? Seems to me that teaching bigotry does more harm than good for the kids.
Is it really so unreasonable to be treated equal? Is Randal supporting bigotry a shock?
Maybe Spencer and Randal can host the Boy Scouts at their houses. (If that idea doesn't make everybody's skin crawl, they haven't been reading the warped world view of these two chuckle heads.)
Uh, Dave, not wanting perverts around children can hardly be called “discrimination”. If you disagree, may I suggest you use the Megan’s Law registry as your children’s babysitting contact list. That is, unless you discriminate. (Hehe.)
You Libs love to claim wants as “rights” and such where clearly none exist. Misplaced sympathies of Libism will do that to ya.
Randal-
1) Being gay does not make someone a pervert.
2) How does your "policy" protect gay children that want to do scouting?
3) It's extremely ironic that you bring up the "pervert" argument after I pointed out that having you as a scout host should make people's skin crawl. (You really walked into that one.)
4) The "right" to equal treatment under the law is a real right, just as you are a real "wrong". I guess protecting your "right" espouse bigotry is more important to you. You really need to take a course on civil rights.
5) It's a shame there isn't a pill that would turn Randal into a black, gay, Muslim, transsexual. I think his/her head would explode.
No one said anything about barring gay children from scouting.
And what would be wrong with a Don’t Ask/ Don’t Tell policy? No, homos always want to announce to the world that they’re gay. And in this case, to children. Not perverts? Says you. That seems pretty perverted to me. Ya never see heteros broadcasting their sexuality publicly in such an inappropriate way.
Again, feel free to find a babysitter from the Megan’s Law registry if you’re so “progressive” and nondiscriminatory.
You seem unusually sympathetic to gays. And your Libism makes you kind of feminine. Have you “experimented”, Dave? Ya know, you do that once ya can’t take it back. Ew.
Randal,
I'm a red-blooded heterosexual male and card-carrying Republican, but I have to tell you that I agree 110% with David on this one.
Maybe your Archie Bunker mentality would have been comical back in the 70's, but this is the 21st century, Randal, and it's time for you to look in the mirror and see yourself for what you truly are - a homophobic bigot.
Get help before you do even more damage to yourself with your unbridled hatred, and us normal Republicans with your absurd rhetoric.
Hmmm, why do you feel the need to share with us your political and sexual affiliations, Mr. Hetero Republican?
There shouldn't be any "gay" Scout leaders in the Boy Scouts. Period. Being a Homosexual male makes you attracted to other males - Correct?
My reasoning? How would you feel if you had your Daughter being at a campout where there were all Heterosexual male Girl Scout leaders? Would that be alright with you? Want my honest opinion? I think that the homosexual movement has done enough of pushing their "agenda" in this country, like "It's ok for Billy to have two daddies" crap in our schools, etc.
Cheers.
David:
The homosexuals are the most INTOLERANT group on this earth. Also, they are perverts! Check out the Outfest ads and how they promote their famous penis shaped bagel eating contest. They do this with taxpayer money out in public. That is not good family fun. It is sick!
The MOST intolerant group seems to be blogging right here, with Randal leading the pack.
Franny-
Would you be okay with homosexual males as Girl Scout leaders (or lesbian women as Boy Scout leaders)?
Of course, the real problem with your post is the assumption that all male adults (gay or straight) are pedophiles. The correct assumption is that (gay or straight) that you are most likely attracted to someone in your own age group, and not attracted to children.
Dave seems to be the “odd man” out …in more ways than one. I guess we’re all a bunch of intolerant homophobes and Dave is the only seer of the truth. Lol…
Indeed the gays are the intolerant bullies anymore.
It is like living in Bizarro Backwards World when gay is the new “normal” and anyone who questions that is the one with the problem. Thank the Gays and their Lib apologist Daves for greasing that slippery slope.
And most pedophiles are indeed homosexual. This is a dirty little secret that the Gay Agenda and its Dave supporters always try to ignore or explain away. Heck, if one goes searching around the pervert sites they will find open talk of recruiting kids for their future ranks. How f-ing sick is that?
And Fran is right, normalizing homoism to impressionable school children while purging all mention of God is a big part of the Gay Agenda. They’re replacing God with Gay and they don’t care how you feel about them doing this to your kids.
This is the sort of thing the Daves are defending when they defend the Gay Agenda.
Why anyone would listen to Libs or grant them power is beyond me.
The homo agenda is bad. They take God out of schools/curriculum, and then teach that homosexuality is normal. Then they blur the lines of gender so that we can be truly secular and whatever we want to be. California has a new law that eliminates gender identification in public schools. Weird and evil!
Rant-dull-
"I guess we’re all a bunch of intolerant homophobes". Yes you are.
How are gays "intolerant bullies" when they are kicked out of the military? Gays represent 1%-3% of the population, and on this blogs, bigots comprise over 50%. Why do the bigots feel so threatened? (My guess they are so ignorant that they are afraid of catching "gay germs".)
Randal, most pedophiles are heterosexuals. Specifically, most pedophiles are male and most of the victims are girls. Watch some episodes of "To Catch a Predator" (hey, maybe we'll see you on there one day). Did you ever hear of "Lolita"?
Randal, many concepts are "beyond" you.
Anonymous: Do the gay priests take God out of the curriculum? And, BTW, with whom did Cain and Abel have sex?
Homosexually is normal for about 1%-3% of the population. A 2-digit I.Q. is normal for 50% of the population (and 90% of the anonymous bloggers here).
David. You say that one to three percent of the population is gay. Then why does this same percentage bitch and moan and jam down our throats (no pun intended) their so-called rights on the majority?
Man, Dave is pulling it all out to defend the indefensible Gay Agenda. Always the silly labels... And he sure seems angrier and less "tolerant" of others' views than anyone else here.
Tell us, Dave, are you homo? Why so mad? You gonna call us Nazis? Hehe...
Fran-
The cornerstone of American democracy is that the majority does not trample the rights of the minority (not their "so-called" rights). Basically, any "right" that you enjoy should not be denied to someone else based upon race, religion, gender or sexual orientation. The arguments against gays are fundamentally the same as the failed arguments against blacks and women as they struggled for various rights. Inter-racial and inter-faith marriages were banned in many states. The reasons: tradition, erosion of institute of marriage, and plain old bigotry and ignorance.
People who are gay should not be denied a job, serving in the military, buying a house, or getting married just because they are gay. They "bitch and moan" because the restrictions on their rights are fundamentally un-American. Many of the people against gays have similar irrational prejudices to those that have hampered other minorities.
If your kid was gay, would you be upset if he or she was denied any "right" that you enjoy, or would you be leading the charge to marginalize them in society?
(sigh) Again with the dragging race into where it has no place. Didn’t one of you Libs just the other day try to compare the “plight” of present day blacks to that of cats at the SPCA? Lol…
People who are gay should not be denied a job
-Sure.
serving in the military
-Sure. Don’t Ask/ Don’t Tell.
buying a house
-Sure.
or getting married just because they are gay
-Nope. This is but your opinion. Once again inventing special rights for your friends that are really nothing more than wants.
They presently enjoy the very same right as everyone else to marry anyone they want …of the opposite sex. Anything more would be a special right created for them. And that would be …dunt-dunt-DUUUNN!… unconstitutional!
There are other freaks out there who see some “right” in being able to marry children and farm animals. We shouldn’t be appeasing their wants either.
Keep grasping, Dave.
Randal-
Don't ask don't tell? How's that a right if they have to hide who they are? How about those that weren't asked and didn't tell but got "outed" and fired?
As for creating special rights...
the caveat of "of the opposite sex" is creating heterosexual marriage as special right, not the other way around.
When there were laws against inter-faith marriage, the same flawed argument was used with the caveat "within your own faith". That level of ignorance may seem quaint and out-dated, but it is alive and well in the anti-gay bigots.
You like to talk about the "gay agenda" like it's some big conspiracy. How about the anti-gay agenda that institutionalizes discrimination? The ones that tout how proud they are of America are the first to engage in un-American intolerance of people for being different.
(sigh) Once again, not appeasing someone’s wants and unreasonable demands can hardly be called “discrimination”.
And why must you grasping Libs always drag completely unrelated history into a discussion? We are talking about gay demands TODAY, not quaint laws of years ago, mkay?
Don’t Ask/ Don’t Tell is fine and fair. Only recently have you purveyors of the Gay Agenda started making a fuss over it as if it were some inherently evil institution. It’s not. And it is not biased since we don’t ask straights or bestiality folks about their perversions, er, I mean… about their sexual orientation, either.
Hide who they are?? Why do gays so want to broadcast their sexuality to everyone? Such private stuff doesn’t belong in the public arena anyway.
And need I remind you that it was none other than your very own LibDem god, Slick Willie, who instituted the policy?
Randal-
It's the not appeasing of REASONABLE demands that is discrimination. That you consider these demands unreasonable goes to the heart of your heartless bigotry. During the civil rights movements thought is was unreasonable for blacks to sit in the front of the bus, drink from "whites only" fountains or sit at "whites only" lunch counters.
The treatment and resolution of inter-racial and inter-faith issues is directly relevant to the issues of gays today. Saying they are not related (while making the same intolerant arguments) only supports the connection.
The fact that you equate homosexuality with perversion is but a further example of your ignorance and bigotry.
As for Clinton's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" it was wrong in that it didn't go far enough. The ban on gays should have been completely lifted. Unfortunately, anti-gay propaganda and misinformation was still running rampant in the early 1990's, and Clinton didn't have the political or military support to lift the ban (though he should have anyway).
At the time, polling in the armed forces was running around 70% to keep a ban. Today, that has been reversed with 70% agreeing that there should be no ban on gays serving openly in the military.
Why do you like to broadcast your bigotry and ignorance to everybody?
There are lot's of anti-gay hate blogs on the internet. They all make the same arguments you do. You would fit in well there.
Blahblahblah… I haven’t seen any “straights only” water fountains lately, have you?
Yes, Unreasonable demands. Also unreasonable are the freaks who want to marry their neighbor’s underage child and/or their dog. We don’t do that stuff in this country.
Yes, much of the Gay Agenda is perversion. Since you know so much about it, you well know this. And yet you apologist Libs are determined to make gay the new “normal” anyway as you feed this crap to our kids.
And it ain’t just me saying so. You would seem to be the odd apologist out, Dave.
Quitchyur weeping. Don’t Ask/ Don’t Tell is fine and reasonable. Get over it.
Why do gays feel the need to broadcast their sexuality to everyone? -I see you avoided this because you know it is impossible to defend. We never see straights doing this. Keep that sh!t in the bed room where it belongs.
Maybe you should blog for a pro Gay Agenda site?
Have you “experimented”, Dave? You seem awfully sympathetic.
David:
I am sorry but I don't understand how you can be an apologist for the homosexual community. Homosexuality is disgusting no matter what your faith is. If you are a Christian, Jew, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, etc... it is disgusting and sinful. The Bible says it is an abomination.
However, if you are atheistic, then it doesn't matter. People of the same sex can do whatever they want, as they can also do owhat they want to a dog or even a child.
Where do you draw the line, or is anything permissible?
Anything goes under Liberalism. “If it feels good, do it.”
And even more than that, it is forced down others’ throats and promoted as “normal” as they claim it as some “right” and coerce acceptance through the dubious “tolerance” when what they really want is embracement and celebration even. All the while any dissenters are PCed and bullied as if they were the ones with the problem.
Modern Liberalism is like living in Crazy Backwards World.
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