A day after getting the latest from J.C. Romero on his offseason elbow surgery, I had the chance to catch up with two other pitchers who went under the knife this offseason: Brad Lidge and Jamie Moyer.

I walked and talked with Moyer as he was completing his first workout at Camp Clearwater (he checked in for the first time in the morning). Moyer, who had offseason procedures that involved his knee, groin, abdomen - and a blood infection, too - said there are "no limits" to what he can do right now.

He hasn't thrown off a mound yet, but if asked to do so for tomorrow's first official workout for pitchers and catchers, he'd be glad to give it a go.

Shortly afterward, the Phillies summoned Lidge into the media lunch room where he met a barrage of cameras and recorders. Speaking of his forgettable '09 season, Lidge admitted he was "trying to convince himself" that he'd be OK physically and turn bad results into good ones all season.

Obviously, that didn't happen.

But after getting both his right knee and right elbow cleaned up, he's confident he can return to his old mechanics. Lidge says he thinks he's two weeks behind the healthy players... and would need at least 10 appearances in spring games... so he still looks to be on track to be ready some time in early April.

As always, more - on both Moyer and Lidge - in the Daily Times Thursday.